Reblog: Christian, Is Your HOPE in Political CHANGE?

I think Jason hit the nail on the head with this one. I know I for one have been frustrated with many brothers and sisters in Christ, so it helps knowing I am not alone!

Perhaps you feel the same. Perhaps you will feel convicted by this. In any event, this is a word of wisdom through Jason.

Christian, Is Your HOPE In Political CHANGE?

Last night I thought Twitter and Facebook were going to literally explode. I watched the election results like many Americans.  Personally, I voted differently than the results played out last night.  I was disappointed.

I was also disheartened.  I wasn’t disheartened by Barack Obama winning (I voted for Romney).  I wasn’t disheartened by the legalization of marijuana in Washington and Colorado (I think this is a big mistake for those states).  I wasn’t disheartened that Maine and Maryland voted to approve gay marriage (Although, I was deeply grieved that traditional marriage was dealt such a big blow).

Can I tell you why I was disheartened?  Believers in Jesus were despairing.

Continue reading here.

    • catholicboyrichard
    • November 7th, 2012

    “Can I tell you why I was disheartened? Believers in Jesus were despairing.”

    I had some definitely mixed feelings about the election–I am pro-life, our current President is not. I am concerned about the poor, he is as well, but I am also concerned about the fiscal issues which, if not fixed fairly soon, will eventually stop us from the overall ability to assist those in need due to a total bankruptcy of our economy.

    On the other hand I never totally trusted Romney either, and the last straw for me was when he began attacking President Obama’s handling of the recent Libya embassy attack from 9-11 of this year–and he did so on the very day it occurred, without knowing intelligence issues or other background information that the President may have not been able to freely address at that point. It was then I became a bit afraid of someone who would use the deaths of an ambassador and other US heroes for his political advantage, or so he hoped, and wondered how he would handle a serious crisis such as another 9/11 issue such as 2001? We will not be able to fight abortion or other life issues if we first blow up the world due to lack of diplomatic skills either.

    So to me that became an issue which caused me to feel very unsafe thinking of this man at the helm. I also happen to believe in both traditional marriage AND marriage equality for non-traditional marriage, not from a religious standpoint but from a justice one, and saw the lack of empathy Romney displayed to a couple of veterans who risked their necks for the nation but, as LGBT men, wanted to marry. He of course has the right to disagree with them but he was downright unkind to them in my view. And that kind of personal seeming coolness truly frightened me.

    My point in all of this is…Christians can and do deeply disagree on these and other major issues. The statement above and article are indeed right on the money, but I get worried when the implication is that true “believers in Jesus” would naturally be even tempted to be disheartened, since obviously those of us with other views could not possibly be committed to Christ. I am NOT saying that is what the author intended, but I do think the hint was implicitly there, perhaps very unwittingly. Basically a great re-post though. And he is certainly correct that people of prayer and freedom should vote, work hard, pray harder, and then leave the ultimate results with God. We get the leaders God gives us. Jesus even pointed this out to Pilate. Yes, as Americans we are partners in that process, but in the end…God decides.

    Just some thoughts…plus I have not stirred up any controversy on your page lately LOL.

    Hope you are well!

    • You are always welcome to stir up controversy over here!

      There was definitely confusion going on with this election for most people. I did not like the way either major candidate (and most minor candidates, for that matter) handled many issues. Romney could have handled the Benghazi attack rebuke better, but it was also revealed that Obama knowingly spread lies about the attacks long after the truth was in the public domain. I can tell you that I would prefer hanging out with Obama over Romney, but I think Romeny would have handled the economy much better (note I did not say well, because there is no real way of knowing short of God divinely showing it to me … and I doubt He will!) while Obama certainly appears to care more for the common man in many respects.

      I also think both men are incredibly dangerous in many respects.

      I also know that God is in control. When Caitlin and I went to bed Tuesday night, the first thing we prayed was “Heavenly Father, we praise You that You are in control. Let half of our nation rejoice without being arrogant and stupid, and let the other half be sad without being melodramatic and stupid. Help President Obama be the best President he can be. May his time in office prove good for our nation, but of course we pray more that this people would be turned to You.”

      We are both well, and getting better. We pray the same for you, brother!

        • catholicboyrichard
        • November 10th, 2012

        Thanks I was wondering…sometimes these days I am unsure who are my friends, online at least, who even considers me a “Christian” anymore, and onward.

        Thanks for still considering me a brother. And your prayer makes lots of sense indeed. God bless!

      • Please do not take some parts of what I am about to say the wrong way (so easy to do online!), because I intend this as at least a compliment and at best a way to understand each other … or is that the other way around?!:

        I do not think I am wrong when I say that I try to treat all those who use the title “Christian” the same as Paul: unless there is definite and unrepentant blasphemy, each Christian is my brother or sister in Christ. I am not naive enough to think all who call themselves “Christian” truly are, but based on Paul’s writings I think he tended to do and think the same.

        You and I may not completely agree on every little thing (and perhaps some big things, but I doubt that one to tell you the truth), but you are my brother until the Lord proves otherwise!

        • catholicboyrichard
        • November 10th, 2012

        Well, I think we both know that the wheat and tares grow together, and look at least similar if not identical. That is why it is up to God to judge. I merely meant that, more specifically in my journey towards a more universal Christianity than Roman Catholicism (which is ironic since “catholic” means universal, but in some circles is used to exclude rather than include), but anyway in that journey which you are aware of I have lost far more than you probably realize. The amount of anger and assumption that I am now living in, not just sin, but “mortal” sin, is implicit or explicit in so many of the interactions I have had since July, simply by suggesting I am for the civil rights of LGBT people and that “catholic” is bigger than Rome.

        That is what I meant when I said you at least seemed to treat me still as a brother, while not all have. Many who have said not a word are still treating me more aloof than before, and if you had seen my FB page in late July and early August, and still with some who occasionally trickle in (2 this week) who have felt the need to body slam me over my views, you too might seek reassurance that someone, somewhere, still at lesat THINKS you are a Christian “in good standing” so to speak.

        I guess that was all I was saying. I was not asking you to pronounce the final judgment on me in either direction. And I hope you do see me as you always did. If not and if you prefer me to fade away, as many seem to, just let me know. God bless.

  1. catholicboyrichard :
    Well, I think we both know that the wheat and tares grow together, and look at least similar if not identical. That is why it is up to God to judge. I merely meant that, more specifically in my journey towards a more universal Christianity than Roman Catholicism (which is ironic since “catholic” means universal, but in some circles is the term is used to exclude rather than include), but anyway in that journey which you are aware of I have lost far more than you probably realize. The amount of anger and assumption that I am now living in, not just sin, but “mortal” sin, is implicit or explicit in so many of the interactions I have had since July, simply by suggesting I am for the civil rights of LGBT people and that “catholic” is bigger than Rome.
    That is what I meant when I said you at least seemed to treat me still as a brother, while not all have. Many who have said not a word are still treating me more aloof than before, and if you had seen my FB page in late July and early August, and still with some who occasionally trickle in (2 this week) who have felt the need to body slam me over my views, you too might seek reassurance that someone, somewhere, still at least THINKS you are a Christian “in good standing” so to speak.
    I guess that was all I was saying. I was not asking you to pronounce the final judgment on me in either direction. And I hope you do see me as you always did. If not and if you prefer me to fade away, as many seem to, just let me know. God bless.

    • And miss out on your amazing heart and mind? Perish the thought!

      To continue from my previous thought, even if I came to the conclusion you were a heathen destined for eternal destruction (which I have NOT!), I would still value you as a person and friend. There is, of course, the reason that God has said (in red letters in my Bible) to “treat them as a sinner” which is surrounded by quotes that can be summed up in “LOVE THEM, YOU FOOL!” With that, however, I have also come to value who you are as a Creation of God and a loving and honest person.

      As evidence, I am taking a break from active blogging, and I have spent hundreds of words and nearly an hour on this blog to converse with you and make sure you stick around! For different reasons than you, I have been through this scenario you now endure. I now have exponentially more and closer friends than before, and I know you will find that to become true for you. The fair warning to keep in mind is that it may not happen until eternity (which should show where I feel you are headed!).

  2. Yes what has ever happened to red letter editions of the Bible anyway??? I actually see them advertised as NOT red letter, as if that was somehow a good thing…what a world.

    As to what you said I can understand you have people in your personal life which is good of course, and they can take up time you once devoted to online. And maybe that is what I need to force myself to do. I tend to get attached to people across the country or world and then am heartbroken when they turn on me (or more accurately my ideas and thoughts) and then I forget that they are not my real friends anyway.

    I am not referring to you of course, I mean folks that are ever-so-cuddly and warm when you are on their side politically or theologically, and then suddenly POOF gone or worse when you reflect upon your views and they change. Few stick around. Then again not many stuck around our Lord either, not that I am comparing my momentary frustrations with His, not at all.

    Anyway you have always made me feel welcome…I think I just become paranoid after awhile and think a nice fetal position curl under the covers for a week or so might help somehow. It generally does not.

    Eating chocolate helps though.

    Daniel thanks and I will not disappear, or if I do I will secretly let you know how to track me down should you wish to. I consider you a friend and not just the “on line” variety.

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